Well these numbers make sense to me, I feel like with more numbers on the team the more average the GPA will be. I'm curious if the time commitment to each sport has anything to do with GPA's.
I agree with this, Phil. I feel if you don't have the time to commit to studying, schoolwork, etc. it can have an impact on your grade and also wonder--since football and basketball players are so often in practice--if being an athlete for a certain sport can be the causation of lower GPAs.
I concur with Phil, i believe the number of teammates plays a big part on the GPA number. But also think time committed to each sport is also a factor. Football spends a ton of time outside of just practice to prepare. Often times we will have to ask to miss a part of a class if it becomes necessary for a game or even for a class.
I agree with Phil, it seems that the more in a sport the lower the GPA has a chance of being. The less on the team, the higher the GPA can be. I must say, I'm not shocked by the results. I expected football to be low, but tennis kind of shocked me. I wonder if certain types of people play different sports? Like are GPA and what sports people play correlated? If that makes sense.
These team GPA's don't surprise me at all and the fact that women's teams in general had higher GPA's doesn't either. Time committed to a sport can have a major effect on tine available for class work which is why time management is key for all student athletes. Some are great time managers while some are not. From being on the football, i know that many kids miss class which can effect their grades. I know this because coach makes it clear who is missing because they run after practice. Do any other teams at TMC do this?
Volleyball doesn't. I'm not even sure my coach checks attendance. I know some teammates have missed before though and haven't suffered any consequences. Maybe its only because football tends to miss on a daily basis and because their grades are low?
Yes i can see this because its true! The same people who miss do it repeatedly for the most part. There are some kids who miss and are late for workouts or meetings on a consistent basis. those who miss every once in a while those who always do the right thing. The fact their grades are low come from missing class and not doing homework, which is due to their own faulty time management and laziness.
I'm with everyone above on the statement about the greater amount of athletes in the sport causes the lower GPA. I think that time commitment plays a big part. I sometimes find it hard to have the energy to get homework or studying I should get done the night before, because of having class all day then football and also a couple night classes right after practice. But then again like Dave Armstrong commented about today, I have a better GPA during the season rather than out of the season. It could also be because of the higher number of new freshman on a team that are trying to adapt to college.
I can totally agree to that! Coming home after classes all day and then a long practice drains me of energy and I find it hard to do homework. I would think that my grades would be worse during season, but I was wrong. At TMC there hasn't been much difference, but at Seton I noticed that my grades during season were always better then when out of season. I think it has to do with time management. Personally, when I know I have something else to do (volleyball) I will get everything done so I don't have to worry about it while I'm away at a tournament or game. Out of season, I don't have those concerns, and don't use my time as wisely.
As a member of the Men’s Tennis team, I have to comment that I am proud of our team GPA but also must admit that there is a bit of sampling bias there in that there are only eight people on the team and so the overall GPA can be influenced heavily by the GPAs of a few individuals and that the datum is probably more a reflection of our current team—i.e., a snapshot—than it is of Men’s Tennis over a greater period of time.
In other words, like Phil stated, if a team has more members, it may be more likely that their GPA will be more average. He also brings up a good point that it would be interesting to see if sports with a greater time commitment are associated with higher or lower GPAs. During the season, playing tennis while balancing my schoolwork does not lower my grades but it definitely does cause me to become more stressed with all my commitments.
In short, I do not necessarily think that individuals with higher GPAs though are gravitated towards other kinds of sports; is not that smart people play tennis, but rather that the team GPA can fluctuate dramatically over time and depending on how many people are playing.
I agree with Phil, I believe football and basketball players practice more, which would bring down their GPA. As far as the women having higher scores doesn't surprise me either. By the time you get out of practice its hard to study.
The GPA's aren't bad at all. But the reason that the football teams is lower is clearly due to them having more players than any other sport. There are about a handful of tennis players and golf players, but for football there are about over 100 players. And not to sound biased, but the football has a way more busy schedule than the other sports which can put a lot of weight on a student athletes shoulders. But then again for over 100 players, a 2.84 GPA overall is quite impressive.
I agree with you Ronnie, the fact that the team G.P.A. is quite impressive. I can attest to how rigorous a football season and off season are. Its is a tough challenge and time management is key.
I agree with Jake and Ronnie here. For having over 100 players on the team a 2.84 GPA is pretty good. In my opinion, a lot of it has to do with the Freshman. Making that transition from high school to college can be tough. Managing football with class and homework on top of that can be very overwhelming. Freshman, a lot of times notice that maybe they don't do so well as they thought they were going too their first semester and that can be a big factor into the overall team GPA. Freshman usually do a lot better their second semester because they now know what to expect and it is the offseason.
I agree with the previous statements in that the teams with larger numbers of players will cause that team to have a lower GPA, as well as having more freshman will because they are not yet used to the way college works or even the harder practices that come with college sports compared to high school practices. I have also found college practices to be much more mentally draining as well as physically compared to an easier high school workout. College practices also last much longer leaving less time to do homework and study, especially for freshman who are not used to properly managing their time yet. I also find it hard to do assignments or studying in the time after class and before a game, which basically eliminates an entire of studying from your week. While it is difficult to manage sports and school I think it helps keep the student motivated to achieve and stay eligible for their sport as well as keeping them motivated to keep their coaches off their backs about grades.
I agree with the previous statements in that the teams with larger numbers of players will cause that team to have a lower GPA, as well as having more freshman will because they are not yet used to the way college works or even the harder practices that come with college sports compared to high school practices. I have also found college practices to be much more mentally draining as well as physically compared to an easier high school workout. College practices also last much longer leaving less time to do homework and study, especially for freshman who are not used to properly managing their time yet. I also find it hard to do assignments or studying in the time after class and before a game, which basically eliminates an entire of studying from your week. While it is difficult to manage sports and school I think it helps keep the student motivated to achieve and stay eligible for their sport as well as keeping them motivated to keep their coaches off their backs about grades.
I think that the more athletes you have on your team the lower your GPA will be. One kid can bring your GPA way down. Also i think it depends on the coach to what they expect from their athletes. some coaches are ok with being average at a 2.0 or whatever you need to play but some coaches want to be higher then average. My coach gets made if we don't have a GPA of 3.0.
I agree with Sydney when she mentions about how it depends on the coach of the team. If there is a coach that dos not really emphasize on the importance of success in the classroom, then their players are not going to put much time and effort in the classroom.
After looking at these team GPA's the averages do not surprise me. If I had to guess which athletic team had the lowest GPA I would have said football. The reason I would have said this is because of the number of players that the football team has. We have over 100 players on the team and it only takes a handful of them to bring down the team GPA. Going along with what Hendo said. The coaches make it clear as to who misses class and team activities. Unfortunately it seems to be the same group of guys week in and week out. If we could get these guys on board and start doing the right thing then we might see that team GPA rise above a 3.0.
It comes down to what the coach wants really and what the punishments are for not doing the right things. I wonder if the punishment was severe enough if these kids that religiously did the wrong thing would stop. It also depends on team leadership. Gotta step up and tell the young ones when they need to get on top of things.
After looking at team GPA's that were provided, I have to say that I am not surprised by the results. The football team's GPA is going to be lower based off of the number of athlete's because the amount of "lazy student Athletes" on a football team is going to be so much higher compared to the amount on a soccer or basketball team. Also I think that the football team is effected more by the jock culture because many football players were the stars at the high school, due to the popularity of the sport, and were given everything in high school, including grades, so their efforts in the classroom probably are not very good. Also you have to think about the gender of the athlete. Women student athletes are gong to have higher GPA's because studies show that the success rate of women in college is higher than the success rate of men.
I agree with everyone's statements from above. There are many things to factor into a team's GPA. Especially with football, our team is made up of almost 60% freshman, the number is around 75 or 80. If some of these guys arent playing and plan on transferring at the end of the semester, they have no incentive to do well in school. That statistic heavily affects our overall GPA and severely declines it. I would be interested in seeing the GPA of upperclassmen on the team compared to underclassmen. I would assume our GPA would be right around the numbers of the womens golf team or a little lower.
I agree with everyones statements, however, I may have missed someone stating this, but we also have to look at what the majors are. Yes all majors are difficult in their own way, however, compare a team that has more biology majors versus a team with Business Majors. I do completely agree though, you have to look at how many participants are involved in the sport. And the dedication to the sport. Sports that travel more through the week where kids have to miss classes, does this effect them more than say Volleyball, because we almost never miss class due to traveling, etc. There are multiply factor that go into the teams GPA, and I dont think that it is fair to just look at it and make assumptions.
i think these numbers make sense.I mean football should have the lowest because they have the most people and unfortunately at most schools especially D1 coaches don't put a huge emphasis on academics which is a shame. But in my opinion i think women care more about grades than men typically do. At;my sisters cared way more about school than i did.
being a football player I feel like we are at a disadvantage because of the number of players we have. and just speaking from my personal experience, when I'm in season I have a better GPA and classroom attendance compared to when I'm in the offseason. the coaches do a good job though checking grades year round with scorecards and because we go to a small school, most of the professors have a good relationship with all the coaches and can reach out to them if they see a student athlete struggling.
Well these numbers make sense to me, I feel like with more numbers on the team the more average the GPA will be. I'm curious if the time commitment to each sport has anything to do with GPA's.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this, Phil. I feel if you don't have the time to commit to studying, schoolwork, etc. it can have an impact on your grade and also wonder--since football and basketball players are so often in practice--if being an athlete for a certain sport can be the causation of lower GPAs.
DeleteI concur with Phil, i believe the number of teammates plays a big part on the GPA number. But also think time committed to each sport is also a factor. Football spends a ton of time outside of just practice to prepare. Often times we will have to ask to miss a part of a class if it becomes necessary for a game or even for a class.
DeleteI agree with Phil, it seems that the more in a sport the lower the GPA has a chance of being. The less on the team, the higher the GPA can be. I must say, I'm not shocked by the results. I expected football to be low, but tennis kind of shocked me. I wonder if certain types of people play different sports? Like are GPA and what sports people play correlated? If that makes sense.
ReplyDeleteThese team GPA's don't surprise me at all and the fact that women's teams in general had higher GPA's doesn't either. Time committed to a sport can have a major effect on tine available for class work which is why time management is key for all student athletes. Some are great time managers while some are not. From being on the football, i know that many kids miss class which can effect their grades. I know this because coach makes it clear who is missing because they run after practice. Do any other teams at TMC do this?
ReplyDeleteVolleyball doesn't. I'm not even sure my coach checks attendance. I know some teammates have missed before though and haven't suffered any consequences. Maybe its only because football tends to miss on a daily basis and because their grades are low?
DeleteYes i can see this because its true! The same people who miss do it repeatedly for the most part. There are some kids who miss and are late for workouts or meetings on a consistent basis. those who miss every once in a while those who always do the right thing. The fact their grades are low come from missing class and not doing homework, which is due to their own faulty time management and laziness.
DeleteI'm with everyone above on the statement about the greater amount of athletes in the sport causes the lower GPA. I think that time commitment plays a big part. I sometimes find it hard to have the energy to get homework or studying I should get done the night before, because of having class all day then football and also a couple night classes right after practice. But then again like Dave Armstrong commented about today, I have a better GPA during the season rather than out of the season. It could also be because of the higher number of new freshman on a team that are trying to adapt to college.
ReplyDeleteI can totally agree to that! Coming home after classes all day and then a long practice drains me of energy and I find it hard to do homework. I would think that my grades would be worse during season, but I was wrong. At TMC there hasn't been much difference, but at Seton I noticed that my grades during season were always better then when out of season. I think it has to do with time management. Personally, when I know I have something else to do (volleyball) I will get everything done so I don't have to worry about it while I'm away at a tournament or game. Out of season, I don't have those concerns, and don't use my time as wisely.
DeleteI agree with you Nicci, theres nothing like having all your work done before the weekend of a game, so Sundays are relaxed and laid back
DeleteAs a member of the Men’s Tennis team, I have to comment that I am proud of our team GPA but also must admit that there is a bit of sampling bias there in that there are only eight people on the team and so the overall GPA can be influenced heavily by the GPAs of a few individuals and that the datum is probably more a reflection of our current team—i.e., a snapshot—than it is of Men’s Tennis over a greater period of time.
ReplyDeleteIn other words, like Phil stated, if a team has more members, it may be more likely that their GPA will be more average. He also brings up a good point that it would be interesting to see if sports with a greater time commitment are associated with higher or lower GPAs. During the season, playing tennis while balancing my schoolwork does not lower my grades but it definitely does cause me to become more stressed with all my commitments.
In short, I do not necessarily think that individuals with higher GPAs though are gravitated towards other kinds of sports; is not that smart people play tennis, but rather that the team GPA can fluctuate dramatically over time and depending on how many people are playing.
I agree with Phil, I believe football and basketball players practice more, which would bring down their GPA. As far as the women having higher scores doesn't surprise me either. By the time you get out of practice its hard to study.
ReplyDeleteThe GPA's aren't bad at all. But the reason that the football teams is lower is clearly due to them having more players than any other sport. There are about a handful of tennis players and golf players, but for football there are about over 100 players. And not to sound biased, but the football has a way more busy schedule than the other sports which can put a lot of weight on a student athletes shoulders. But then again for over 100 players, a 2.84 GPA overall is quite impressive.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Ronnie, the fact that the team G.P.A. is quite impressive. I can attest to how rigorous a football season and off season are. Its is a tough challenge and time management is key.
DeleteI agree with Jake and Ronnie here. For having over 100 players on the team a 2.84 GPA is pretty good. In my opinion, a lot of it has to do with the Freshman. Making that transition from high school to college can be tough. Managing football with class and homework on top of that can be very overwhelming. Freshman, a lot of times notice that maybe they don't do so well as they thought they were going too their first semester and that can be a big factor into the overall team GPA. Freshman usually do a lot better their second semester because they now know what to expect and it is the offseason.
DeleteI agree with the previous statements in that the teams with larger numbers of players will cause that team to have a lower GPA, as well as having more freshman will because they are not yet used to the way college works or even the harder practices that come with college sports compared to high school practices. I have also found college practices to be much more mentally draining as well as physically compared to an easier high school workout. College practices also last much longer leaving less time to do homework and study, especially for freshman who are not used to properly managing their time yet. I also find it hard to do assignments or studying in the time after class and before a game, which basically eliminates an entire of studying from your week. While it is difficult to manage sports and school I think it helps keep the student motivated to achieve and stay eligible for their sport as well as keeping them motivated to keep their coaches off their backs about grades.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the previous statements in that the teams with larger numbers of players will cause that team to have a lower GPA, as well as having more freshman will because they are not yet used to the way college works or even the harder practices that come with college sports compared to high school practices. I have also found college practices to be much more mentally draining as well as physically compared to an easier high school workout. College practices also last much longer leaving less time to do homework and study, especially for freshman who are not used to properly managing their time yet. I also find it hard to do assignments or studying in the time after class and before a game, which basically eliminates an entire of studying from your week. While it is difficult to manage sports and school I think it helps keep the student motivated to achieve and stay eligible for their sport as well as keeping them motivated to keep their coaches off their backs about grades.
ReplyDeleteI think that the more athletes you have on your team the lower your GPA will be. One kid can bring your GPA way down. Also i think it depends on the coach to what they expect from their athletes. some coaches are ok with being average at a 2.0 or whatever you need to play but some coaches want to be higher then average. My coach gets made if we don't have a GPA of 3.0.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Sydney when she mentions about how it depends on the coach of the team. If there is a coach that dos not really emphasize on the importance of success in the classroom, then their players are not going to put much time and effort in the classroom.
DeleteAfter looking at these team GPA's the averages do not surprise me. If I had to guess which athletic team had the lowest GPA I would have said football. The reason I would have said this is because of the number of players that the football team has. We have over 100 players on the team and it only takes a handful of them to bring down the team GPA. Going along with what Hendo said. The coaches make it clear as to who misses class and team activities. Unfortunately it seems to be the same group of guys week in and week out. If we could get these guys on board and start doing the right thing then we might see that team GPA rise above a 3.0.
ReplyDeleteIt comes down to what the coach wants really and what the punishments are for not doing the right things. I wonder if the punishment was severe enough if these kids that religiously did the wrong thing would stop. It also depends on team leadership. Gotta step up and tell the young ones when they need to get on top of things.
DeleteAfter looking at team GPA's that were provided, I have to say that I am not surprised by the results. The football team's GPA is going to be lower based off of the number of athlete's because the amount of "lazy student Athletes" on a football team is going to be so much higher compared to the amount on a soccer or basketball team. Also I think that the football team is effected more by the jock culture because many football players were the stars at the high school, due to the popularity of the sport, and were given everything in high school, including grades, so their efforts in the classroom probably are not very good. Also you have to think about the gender of the athlete. Women student athletes are gong to have higher GPA's because studies show that the success rate of women in college is higher than the success rate of men.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone's statements from above. There are many things to factor into a team's GPA. Especially with football, our team is made up of almost 60% freshman, the number is around 75 or 80. If some of these guys arent playing and plan on transferring at the end of the semester, they have no incentive to do well in school. That statistic heavily affects our overall GPA and severely declines it. I would be interested in seeing the GPA of upperclassmen on the team compared to underclassmen. I would assume our GPA would be right around the numbers of the womens golf team or a little lower.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyones statements, however, I may have missed someone stating this, but we also have to look at what the majors are. Yes all majors are difficult in their own way, however, compare a team that has more biology majors versus a team with Business Majors.
ReplyDeleteI do completely agree though, you have to look at how many participants are involved in the sport. And the dedication to the sport. Sports that travel more through the week where kids have to miss classes, does this effect them more than say Volleyball, because we almost never miss class due to traveling, etc. There are multiply factor that go into the teams GPA, and I dont think that it is fair to just look at it and make assumptions.
i think these numbers make sense.I mean football should have the lowest because they have the most people and unfortunately at most schools especially D1 coaches don't put a huge emphasis on academics which is a shame. But in my opinion i think women care more about grades than men typically do. At;my sisters cared way more about school than i did.
ReplyDeletebeing a football player I feel like we are at a disadvantage because of the number of players we have. and just speaking from my personal experience, when I'm in season I have a better GPA and classroom attendance compared to when I'm in the offseason. the coaches do a good job though checking grades year round with scorecards and because we go to a small school, most of the professors have a good relationship with all the coaches and can reach out to them if they see a student athlete struggling.
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